Don't try this at home

Relationship Experts Walk The Talk: Teale's spur-of-the-moment questions for Figs inspire a risky couples exercise you probably SHOULDN'T try yourself.

January 19, 2023
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Don't try this at home

Relationship Experts Walk The Talk: Teale's spur-of-the-moment questions for Figs inspire a risky couples exercise you probably SHOULDN'T try yourself.

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In "Don't try this at home," Teale and Figs give each other feedback—something that is not a good idea when couples are fighting or feeling reactive with each other.

They take turns asking each other two questions: "What is my best quality?" and "What do I need to work on?"

From a place of de-escalation (not in conflict, feeling connected), they are able to express the qualities they are most impressed by, and—in both cases—how that same quality can have a negative side.

Figs values Teale's ability to approach the world with excitement and positivity. He also notices how Teale's efforts to fit a lot into the day can create overwhelm in himself and in Teale.

Teale recognizes Figs' creativity in work and daily life, as well as the ways his passionate focus can lead to a sense of disconnection from her and from his life.

Both of these perspectives—while subjective—capture the positive and negative ways each other's behavior lands, and serve as a potential frame for adjusting and improving their lives into 2023.

Relationship Experts Walk The Talk is a deep dive into the struggles, cycles, and joys of relationship from couple and counselors Figs and Teale. Learn how to repair conflict and understand each other through their personal therapy sessions, storytelling, and expertise as couples therapists.

To submit a question for Figs and Teale to answer, email figs@empathi.com or leave a comment on YouTube, Instagram, or Apple Podcasts.

If you or someone you love are struggling in your relationship, visit empathi.com for counseling, quizzes, and courses.

Transcript

Speaker 1: And then I feel really alone and everything, and I have no models, and I'm a son of an alcoholic, and I don't know any successful relationships that I have.

Speaker 1: Let me repeat her, did you get hurt Teal?

Speaker 1: You commute to me.

Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone to the Come Here To Me podcast with myself, Figs.

Speaker 2: And Teal.

Speaker 1: Yeah, we're really excited to be back doing a full episode of the Relationship Experts Walk the Talk series, right?

Speaker 1: But it's basically where Teal and I talk about our relationship, and then whatever we're like musing on, wrestling on about relationships.

Speaker 2: And issues, annoyances.

Speaker 1: Well, exactly.

Speaker 1: Yeah, with each other, right?

Speaker 1: Within our relationships.

Speaker 1: Exactly, exactly.

Speaker 1: So here's the thing, the inspiration for our recording today is Teal, you came up with a brilliant idea, I thought, to bring in the new year for us.

Speaker 1: And for once, I stopped you just doing it and us having a conversation right there and then.

Speaker 2: You gave me blue balls, let's be honest.

Speaker 2: Wow.

Speaker 2: I was so excited, you guys, we're in the hot tub.

Speaker 2: I was like, I was so sweet.

Speaker 2: I was like dewy and sweet and my body armor in the hot tub and you were, you were naked.

Speaker 1: Blue balls, like where are we going with this?

Speaker 1: I'm 51.

Speaker 1: I don't get blue balls anymore.

Speaker 1: What are you talking about?

Speaker 2: Goals, goals, 2023 for you.

Speaker 1: More whatever medicine gives you that.

Speaker 2: Wow.

Speaker 1: Okay, we've gone down a dark path.

Speaker 1: I'm really sorry, a blue path.

Speaker 1: Okay, good, good.

Speaker 1: So here's the thing.

Speaker 1: You had these questions that you wanted to ask and I thought they were really sweet.

Speaker 1: You know, we were going to ask each other.

Speaker 1: So let's do them now.

Speaker 1: With an audience.

Speaker 2: Just to say, Fig stopped me and so I've been waiting for like 24 hours to hear.

Speaker 1: So let's do it.

Speaker 2: Okay, the question I had for you just came, came spontaneously to me as I said, I wanted to know like what you think my best quality is.

Speaker 2: It sounds weird now.

Speaker 1: Yeah, but look, I am, I am in so much admiration that you could even ask such a question.

Speaker 1: I can't imagine ever, like feeling like good enough inside myself that I would ask you tell me something you like about me, right?

Speaker 1: I'm not talking about me like what's the best thing about me?

Speaker 2: Right, like a great, yeah.

Speaker 1: But look, I think it's great.

Speaker 1: So let me take this question seriously.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually What is your best quality?

Speaker 2: I'm ready.

Speaker 1: It's your dance moves.

Speaker 1: You know, your I think your best quality is your enthusiasm, just how enthusiastic and positive you are.

Speaker 1: Like, really, like, and I remember this from the first moment I met you, and pretty much every day since, right, that you, um, you're just like you wake up 99% of the day is just like, Hello, let's do this.

Speaker 1: Yay.

Speaker 1: Right.

Speaker 1: And I have it, but it's really lovely to be around, right?

Speaker 1: Like I, you know, and I know I've said this to you many times, but you just make my life the kids life.

Speaker 1: And pretty much everyone you meet our neighbors.

Speaker 1: I'm glad you said our neighbors because You do you improve everybody's life with your positivity and enthusiasm, which I just Very nice.

Speaker 1: Well, it's, it's brilliant.

Speaker 1: It's worth the wait.

Speaker 1: Wow.

Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, I really appreciate it about you.

Speaker 2: That's very nice.

Speaker 2: That's a great quality in myself.

Speaker 1: What is it like to you?

Speaker 2: It feels really good.

Speaker 2: Like, I just feel seen and recognize.

Speaker 2: I mean, I think you're giving me like several compliments all at once.

Speaker 2: Our dog is really excited that we're feeding her time 10 minutes.

Speaker 1: Oh, shoot.

Speaker 1: Our dog may be in this podcast.

Speaker 1: Because yeah, he's supposed to be fed right now.

Speaker 1: It feels good.

Speaker 2: And it feels good that you think that it's a very sweet and admirable question to ask someone like to say, what's a good body?

Speaker 2: So I feel like I'm getting like double duty.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Appreciation.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 1: That's an interesting one.

Speaker 1: Right?

Speaker 1: Like, you know, one of the things I do as a therapist, I look for where someone might have a nourishment barrier.

Speaker 1: So you want to actually find the questions that would be hard for someone to answer.

Speaker 1: Right.

Speaker 1: So for me, like that, that would be a good question to ask you, like if I was going to try and access you more deeply.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Like emotionally.

Speaker 1: But for me, it's like me as you tell me what my best quality is.

Speaker 1: It's probably even a richer question for me because it's it makes my makes me want to explode.

Speaker 2: Like for me to say about you what I think.

Speaker 1: Well, just being asked the question and like, yeah, like hearing, you know, what's good about me.

Speaker 1: My God, our kids are coming now.

Speaker 1: We're actually going to let them be on.

Speaker 1: Come here.

Speaker 1: Come here.

Speaker 2: We're downstairs.

Speaker 1: Zephyr wants to be fed.

Speaker 1: What do you want?

Speaker 2: What doesn't he want?

Speaker 1: Unbelievable.

Speaker 2: So, listen, you think, oh, you know, the study of asking this question like he's gone.

Speaker 2: So I also have another question that's part of this.

Speaker 1: OK.

Speaker 2: All right.

Speaker 2: So the second question, like, listen, I'm not as optimistic as as you think.

Speaker 2: Like, I think I really was in a place of like, what's a great quality?

Speaker 2: But I had the polarity on the other side of that for myself.

Speaker 2: I wasn't just like, look, just let me just hear what's good about me.

Speaker 2: I was thinking, like, I always think about, like, death and that existential piece of like.

Speaker 2: You know, what kind of feedback do I need in my life right now?

Speaker 2: Believe me, I'm giving myself plenty of feedback.

Speaker 2: I get feedback from the world.

Speaker 2: But like, what is it that I what's the piece of feedback that I'm probably getting that's hardest for me to integrate?

Speaker 2: And from the person that I love more than anything, I feel like, you know, me, like, you're legit my best friend.

Speaker 2: We've been together for 10 years.

Speaker 2: Like, you know what my best quality is.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: And I do love it about me.

Speaker 2: I love that makes me feel so good.

Speaker 2: And, you know, my worst qualities.

Speaker 1: What's the question?

Speaker 1: Am I really going to get a chance to answer this?

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: You've been like you're foaming at the mouth.

Speaker 1: It's exciting.

Speaker 2: What's the thing that I need to work on the most in my life?

Speaker 2: Like, what's my greatest failing?

Speaker 1: Well, let me just do a very important like before I answer the question, if you and your partner are actively in a negative cycle, you know, which we talk about on the show, you're not feeling securely bonded.

Speaker 1: Do not be giving each other feedback.

Speaker 1: Do not ask nor answer questions about what is my failing or what do I need to work on?

Speaker 1: Bad idea.

Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this was a totally de-escalated moment where Figs and I like fully like de-escalated earlier that day, by the way.

Speaker 1: No, but we were in a fully de-escalated moment when you first brought it up and we are now and we're couples therapists.

Speaker 1: But in general, giving each other feedback, you know, it's an important thing to talk about.

Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of feedback in relationships in general.

Speaker 1: It's a bad idea.

Speaker 1: We could talk more about that later.

Speaker 1: But OK, specifically with you, what because we're going to go for it.

Speaker 1: What do you need to work on the most?

Speaker 2: Like, what's my greatest like like what's my.

Speaker 1: We're going to be bad now.

Speaker 1: I'm going to do everything I say we shouldn't do with each other.

Speaker 1: Our dog is we still didn't feed Zephyr.

Speaker 2: Look at her like she's deranged.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 1: So right.

Speaker 2: Zephyr, please.

Speaker 1: OK, so I'm scared.

Speaker 1: You.

Speaker 1: In your enthusiasm and excitement for life, you are not a very good judge about when you're actually going to get overwhelmed by what you're doing.

Speaker 1: And all the things you plan to do with a day and the impact that level of enthusiasm can have on me, the kids, your mom.

Speaker 1: Even myself and yourself, actually.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 1: What am I talking about?

Speaker 1: Right.

Speaker 1: So let me give you an example as recently.

Speaker 1: Right.

Speaker 1: This is just like, you know, really annoying.

Speaker 1: Right.

Speaker 1: We are really annoying.

Speaker 1: Right.

Speaker 1: We actually planned this date on Christmas Eve.

Speaker 1: Right.

Speaker 1: We had this date where we actually got to go paddling in our one person canoes.

Speaker 1: And we got to see we saw whales.

Speaker 1: We saw sharks.

Speaker 1: We were riding waves.

Speaker 1: It was amazing.

Speaker 1: Two hours like full on.

Speaker 1: So we get out of the water at nine a.m. I discover at nine a.m. Teal has arranged to meet two, three other families, her mother, her ex-stepdad.

Speaker 1: And she had agreed to give these three families lessons.

Speaker 2: That was actually impromptu.

Speaker 1: Well, so all of a sudden you had agreed to give our volunteer.

Speaker 1: I would actually you were teaching people how to outrigger canoe, which meant really fun.

Speaker 1: Well, it was really fun, but I had just completed nine miles.

Speaker 1: And then I had to go back out because I couldn't leave these people that had never been in a canoe before.

Speaker 1: Like Hooli, like go over and not have someone with them.

Speaker 1: It was just like it was overwhelming for you.

Speaker 1: It was overwhelming for the kids, the kids that hadn't eaten.

Speaker 1: Like it was just so.

Speaker 1: So, look, everything is a double edged sword in life.

Speaker 1: Everything.

Speaker 1: It is unbelievable how enthusiastic you are.

Speaker 1: And I love it.

Speaker 1: I love it.

Speaker 1: I love it.

Speaker 1: We get to do more stuff than we ever would do.

Speaker 1: I would ever do in my life if you weren't this way.

Speaker 1: And it does also come often with like for flip sake, woman, like your knickers down and just like, you know, like, let's do one thing in the morning, not try and fit in 10 things.

Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1: I'll shut up because I really that was fun.

Speaker 1: That was really fun.

Speaker 2: Oh, well, I somehow just maybe because we're deescalated and it's like making it funny and you said something so nice that it's not landing in some terrible way.

Speaker 2: And I really feel it about myself.

Speaker 2: And, you know, I feel the longing for, like, serenity and slowing down and, you know, less chaos and really just on a mission to gather people.

Speaker 2: And, okay, let's everyone go out and you take a turn.

Speaker 2: And so it's like, I get away from myself.

Speaker 2: But, you know, I wanted to say, like, I think I think this is so interesting, right?

Speaker 2: Like, it's the it's the good part, but it's also the flip side, like you said, that double edged sword.

Speaker 1: Anything I say all the time, anything in a large enough dose is a poison.

Speaker 2: Yes.

Speaker 1: Even enthusiasm.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: And I think that overwhelm that I can bring to you and myself is then I can have less capacity for the fine details that are actually really important.

Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of spinoffs to this.

Speaker 1: There's a lot about it.

Speaker 2: And listen, I'm in a generous spirit right now at the end of the year, you know, in terms of, you know, intentions and try not to give myself too much.

Speaker 2: Like I do want to drink more water.

Speaker 2: Wow.

Speaker 1: Wow.

Speaker 1: Really glad the listeners know.

Speaker 1: Everyone is really good.

Speaker 1: No, no more water.

Speaker 2: More water, please.

Speaker 2: But but yeah, it's I think just attachment wise between us.

Speaker 2: Right.

Speaker 2: If it feels good.

Speaker 2: And I wanted to know.

Speaker 1: So I was really hungry to listen.

Speaker 1: Look, these are there's amazing quality.

Speaker 1: Let me just say, like, one, obviously, huge win deal is so enthusiastic and so good at bringing people together.

Speaker 1: One of our neighbors took all of their excess Christmas lights, which there's a lot, and completely decked out our house with lights.

Speaker 1: Like really unbelievable.

Speaker 1: Now, we're getting like our neighbors are coming up like this.

Speaker 1: Our house is so beautiful.

Speaker 1: I love what you did.

Speaker 1: I didn't.

Speaker 1: I think I carried a step ladder up from the back garden.

Speaker 1: Right.

Speaker 1: So like.

Speaker 1: And that is all down to you making contacts and being so friendly and warm.

Speaker 1: So we get Christmas lights on our house and we did nothing.

Speaker 1: Right.

Speaker 1: Or at least I did.

Speaker 1: Hold on.

Speaker 1: I gotta feed Zephyr.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: OK, we're back.

Speaker 2: Home again, home again, little piggies.

Speaker 1: Even though you didn't even notice a gap, did you?

Speaker 1: And so let's do it.

Speaker 1: I literally.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 1: I don't know if I even want to hear the answer to this, but I'll ask you.

Speaker 1: What?

Speaker 1: What a question.

Speaker 1: What is my best quality?

Speaker 1: What is my best quality?

Speaker 1: Tell me.

Speaker 1: Tell me your favorite thing.

Speaker 1: It's hard for me to ask it seriously.

Speaker 1: Tell me what you think.

Speaker 1: What is my best quality?

Speaker 1: Is that it?

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: OK, tell me what my best quality is.

Speaker 1: Very vulnerable.

Speaker 2: Like we could just process this moment for a really long time.

Speaker 2: But we're not.

Speaker 2: We're going to listen to me.

Speaker 2: Because I got some things to say about it.

Speaker 2: OK, so.

Speaker 2: Best quality.

Speaker 2: Is.

Speaker 2: Things are like the most just dedicated.

Speaker 2: Creative, just straight up the most creative person I've ever met.

Speaker 2: I've met some weird Santa Cruz artists, San Francisco hippies.

Speaker 2: Cool vans.

Speaker 2: Cool splatter art.

Speaker 2: Bottom line.

Speaker 2: Creative to your phone.

Speaker 2: And it comes across in.

Speaker 2: A million ways.

Speaker 2: Highly focused.

Speaker 2: Highly obsessed.

Speaker 1: OK, wait, wait.

Speaker 1: I thought you're staying on the positive.

Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's just like that dogged determination.

Speaker 2: And and like you dream like I'm like, what are we eating for dinner?

Speaker 2: You're like, let's go to the moon.

Speaker 2: I'm just like, I do.

Speaker 2: Where did your brain like, where did you come from?

Speaker 2: Literally, like what kind of creature are you?

Speaker 2: You're you have aspirations and thoughts and creativity.

Speaker 2: And focus and.

Speaker 2: And then you like get down to work.

Speaker 2: You are a highly determined.

Speaker 2: Nuts and bolts, like.

Speaker 2: Like 100% of your organism is dedicated to your process.

Speaker 2: And your project, and then you dream big and then you make that shit.

Speaker 1: Thank you.

Speaker 1: But, you know, let me just like, here's I'll tell you what comes up is hard for me.

Speaker 1: I don't think of myself as a creative person.

Speaker 1: Like, I gotta be honest.

Speaker 1: Like, so it's just a little bit.

Speaker 1: It's almost it's almost confusing.

Speaker 1: Right.

Speaker 1: Like, if I be honest, like you're saying, like, I'm so creative.

Speaker 1: It's not like it even touches a place like, oh, I feel.

Speaker 2: Because because I think we have a we have human beings.

Speaker 2: We have too narrow of a definition of what creativity is.

Speaker 2: Right.

Speaker 2: Like, it doesn't mean like just the bell bottoms with the beautiful flowers on them.

Speaker 1: Right.

Speaker 1: Or painting, which let's face it.

Speaker 1: Yeah, but like little challenge on the painting from, well, listen.

Speaker 2: What I'm, what I'm saying with this really has to do with your visions around.

Speaker 2: Our business and where we can go and ideas and growth and, and bigness.

Speaker 2: But.

Speaker 2: Your creativity comes through in ways that completely.

Speaker 2: Are not, you know, business related.

Speaker 2: They come down to fashion.

Speaker 2: FIGS is literally like.

Speaker 1: Weird.

Speaker 2: No.

Speaker 1: We wear, we live in Hawaii.

Speaker 2: Stop.

Speaker 2: Please stop.

Speaker 1: Go on.

Speaker 2: Please stop.

Speaker 2: Like you have, you have beautiful ideas around design.

Speaker 2: You're a designer and you love, you do have ideas around.

Speaker 2: You know, design from one spectrum to the other.

Speaker 2: And so it comes through from fashion to designing a room to how.

Speaker 2: Art could look to how writing looks.

Speaker 2: And then in the sort of expansive business, that's where you really like turn.

Speaker 2: You get your wheels.

Speaker 2: Flowing.

Speaker 2: In our work, but I get to see all these things that other people don't get to see.

Speaker 2: Right.

Speaker 2: Which have to do with the ways that your creativity come through.

Speaker 2: Also with our kids.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 1: No, no, no.

Speaker 1: Thank you.

Speaker 1: I like that.

Speaker 1: And, you know, just as you were saying, I would, I would say the place.

Speaker 1: If it's not it, I'm going to be so bold.

Speaker 1: That I'm most creative is in therapy sessions.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: No, because like, I got to find.

Speaker 1: I got to meet the moment.

Speaker 1: Completely wherever, like a couple or an individual's out and come up with the right analogy, metaphor.

Speaker 1: Intervention.

Speaker 1: That'll actually help them drop into their feelings or express their feelings or really have a, like a drop of like.

Speaker 1: Meaning.

Speaker 1: And so I do think.

Speaker 1: I am very creative.

Speaker 1: Being truly immersed in the present moment and then using.

Speaker 1: Like just access to what is the right creative action to take in a moment.

Speaker 1: Absolutely.

Speaker 1: And I, I, I am actually quite proud of that part, right.

Speaker 1: When it comes to improvising.

Speaker 1: I think that's why I love being a therapist to be honest, because it's so pure.

Speaker 2: I mean, it's, it's not like theater, like you're making it up, but it's like.

Speaker 2: The gestalt of the moment.

Speaker 2: It's like.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: You're you're taking from so many different pools and just.

Speaker 2: Like a, like a chef, right?

Speaker 2: Like organizing what would be right.

Speaker 1: Exactly.

Speaker 1: These ingredients.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 1: You know, that feels really good.

Speaker 1: And I, yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1: I get to practice my creativity.

Speaker 1: And as a therapist.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: It's so fun.

Speaker 1: Not now.

Speaker 1: What do I have to work on?

Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's, it really is.

Speaker 2: Like I was thinking.

Speaker 2: Okay.

Speaker 2: Pull something from over here.

Speaker 2: That's not related, but the reality is.

Speaker 2: The thing that is most challenging for you is also that blessing.

Speaker 2: Like it's that flip side, right?

Speaker 2: Like that.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 1: So what is it?

Speaker 1: That's what you're saying.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: It's just, I mean, listen, just, just, you know, Slowing down and smelling the flowers.

Speaker 2: that are outside of the tunnel vision of productivity and vision and you know

Speaker 2: you're you're you're kind of single focused right and so just the expand of

Speaker 2: course there's a lot of creativity in that single focus right yeah but like

Speaker 2: yeah I'm like hey come over here and probably like I'm the kind of EDD of

Speaker 2: like look I like this and I like this and come over here and do this right and

Speaker 2: you're part of what makes you so awesome is you're you're going for this huge and

Speaker 2: singular vision yeah and so I you know I've gotten lonely for you right

Speaker 2: sometimes so I think it's been a cycle what I was doing bringing it back to our

Speaker 2: cycle was feeling like I could take it personally like get focused on me like

Speaker 1: get focused on so but wait a second I just want to make sure okay and this is

Speaker 1: probably it's just I want to make sure I'm really getting the feedback and what

Speaker 1: I need to work on so the good thing is a creative and then what I need to work

Speaker 1: on because I'm just struggling to track it like what is it that you think I have

Speaker 2: to most work on this well I think you need to work on slowing down and taking

Speaker 2: in like the present moment that it's outside of the tunnel vision right and

Speaker 2: for you that encompasses things like self-care and you know I don't want to

Speaker 1: go through all the things but I can forgo self-care right yes right when

Speaker 1: I'm obsessing and working hard on something yeah so this was good when what

Speaker 1: I was obsessed about was paddling because it was actually good for me in

Speaker 2: other ways it was and was it less triggering for me at times no right and

Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that I you're gonna do and I want you to do 100% behind you

Speaker 1: race season starts again in three months so I'm so excited for you but you know

Speaker 1: like listen that makes sense right it's harder for me to be present because I

Speaker 1: get obsessive on whatever it is that I'm passionate about interested in that

Speaker 1: moment and it usually has some kind of drive it's not just I'm obsessed about

Speaker 1: and thinking about it neutrally like I've just drive to get better at it and

Speaker 1: so it it really impacts my level of presence in just the everyday moments

Speaker 1: because my mind is likely to wander to whether it's the business whether it's

Speaker 1: podcasting right or whether it's paddling so that makes them I need to

Speaker 2: work on being present yeah even you using the word like wander I'm like when

Speaker 2: am you friggin wandered like you're like straight line to that thing so right you

Speaker 2: know it but I hear you and you're taking it in yeah it's just it's just interesting

Speaker 2: right like it's the things that are the blessing in the curse and it's great you

Speaker 2: know yeah good to know this stuff when we're like this age instead of work on

Speaker 2: just like shit there's no more time like yeah that's a time I think even if we've

Speaker 1: got a day we could work on this no absolutely absolutely and look I totally

Speaker 1: you know we're therapists right and I always like you can't as great as it is

Speaker 1: what we do if you could bottle up the value of eating well and exercising right

Speaker 1: eat well exercise sleep right and so that's kind of my goal right I just think

Speaker 1: I'm better at being present if I sleep well eat well and exercise right like

Speaker 1: because obviously I'm you know the whole feeling your feelings talking about your

Speaker 1: feelings you know like I do it all the time but like just there so there are the

Speaker 1: three things it sounds so simple but I want to be really disciplined about that

Speaker 2: awesome I'm glad that the listeners know that about you now you want to drink more

Speaker 1: water thanks for bringing it exactly no really okay well here listen thank you

Speaker 1: that was a bit different than what how we normally talk to each other so so

Speaker 2: listen key takeaways we will be back and don't necessarily go do this with your

Speaker 1: partner right unless you're feeling unbelievably close to each other and

Speaker 2: safe yeah if you guys are feeling really really de-escalated and you're

Speaker 2: kind of like look you could say something really shitty to me and I

Speaker 2: probably know what you're gonna say to me because listen you've actually given me

Speaker 2: feedback before right fights right exactly it's kind of interesting to get

Speaker 2: feedback from a connected place when you're not in a fight when you're

Speaker 2: actually feeling kind of grounded and integrated in yourself and you're feeling

Speaker 2: kind of grounded and integrated with your partner like it becomes you know

Speaker 2: building blocks for for great things sure so feel it out in yourself maybe

Speaker 2: give yourself some loving feedback what you think you're kicking ass at where

Speaker 2: you think you can improve right if you feel wild take a spin with your sweetie

Speaker 1: yeah very good thank you not don't thank you everyone for tuning in and it's

Speaker 1: really good to be back you know together to you and I and recording podcast and we will

Speaker 1: see you a drop into your inboxes soon bye guys bye

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